Lando Norris took the fight to Max Verstappen throughout Formula 1's Brazilian Grand Prix weekend but ended up with two relatively narrow defeats.
Could Norris and McLaren have done any more to upstage Verstappen and Red Bull?
That's one of the topics Edd Straw, Mark Hughes and Scott Mitchell-Malm debate on The Race F1 Podcast.
They also delve into exactly how Fernando Alonso pulled off his against-the-odds defeat of Sergio Perez for a podium, and how Aston Martin pulled itself together after a run of poor races to become a frontrunner again.
At the opposite end of the scale, our panel discuss some theories for why Mercedes' weekend turned out so badly.